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Clibit

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May is Camra mild month, and mild is Ron Pattinson's favourite beer style, so he's done a little article about it and suggested a mild beer festival would be a good thing, so varied have milds been over the years...

https://barclayperkins.blogspot.com/2019/05/wild-about-mild.html

Wild about Mild

 
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Mild was one of the first topics I researched in the archives. Right after Porter. I didn't find what I expected.

Because I had no idea how much Mild had changed. I realised Mild had once been stronger. But not quite how strong. Finding versions over 10% ABV was a bit of a shock. The colour was the biggest surprise. Discovering all Mild had once been pale. The more I dug, the more I understood about the styles's remarkable transformations.

That's the great fun, for me. Coming across something different to what I'd expected. I still get a thrill when I uncover something new.

A while back I had a project with Pretty Things, where they brewed two versions of Barclay Perkins Mild. One from 1837, the other 1945. They had absolutely nothing in common. Demonstrating what time can do to a beer. Especially when that time contains major wars.

Exactly when, and why, Mild started getting darker remains a mystery. Frustratingly, brewing recirds only start giving a colour number after WW I. About twenty years after I think the process began. Any reason I offer can only be speculation. The cynical one being publicans needed a cheap, dark beer to dump slops into after Porter disappeared.

Mild Ale has been so many different things: pale, strong and hoppy; dark, weak and mild. It would make a great beer festival.  If anyone should be in search of a theme.


Barclay Perkins X Ale 1837 - 1945
YearOGFGABVApp. Atten-uationlbs hops/ qtrhops lb/brl
18371071.51013.27.7181.53%7.052.44
18491071.51014.17.5980.27%7.792.68
18631060.91012.46.4279.65%13.063.62
18801060.41018.05.6170.18%10.973.09
18901058.01016.95.4470.87%9.062.19
19001052.61008.95.7983.15%8.151.73
19141051.31013.64.9973.54%5.491.15
19181046.51012.74.4772.60%5.010.97
19191039.41009.43.9776.10%6.961.11
19291042.61012.53.9870.65%6.501.10
19391034.81010.03.2871.26%7.000.95
19451029.71008.52.8071.38%5.490.65
 
 
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So who has had a mild recently? I've had milds from Hydes and Holts breweries in the last week or so, two longstanding Manchester breweries. I really like the Holts Mild, it's lovely. The Hydes was good but I think it could be better, served in better condition. Phoenix Brewery does a mild called Monkeytown that's good, Spoons sometimes has it. 
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No. I used to drink it occasionally in Manchester but not since then
I don’t think I’ve seen one in a pub for years
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had a Sarah Hughes Ruby Mild at the Newcastle beer festival last month. it was excellent i must say.
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No. I used to drink it occasionally in Manchester but not since then
I don’t think I’ve seen one in a pub for years


Cloudwater does an occasional mild. I had one about a month ago, it was really good. If Cloudwater can do milds, anyone can. 
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 I keep meaning to brew a mild the last one I did I got a bit too heavy handed with dark malts it was more like a stout and needed aging a bit which defied the point a bit.

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Tis another one on my brew list. I've got everything, but missed the window for the moment, so I'll probably brew it at the end of summer for the autumn.
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I make them reasonably frequently, quite hard to do. Haven't drank a commercial one in a while, Brains mild used to be my regular drink.
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"Discovering all Mild had once been pale."

And strong. It's now mostly dark and weak. Its like a low key, gentle stout/porter, a lot of modern mild.
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Low key stout / porter => agree, so I would rather brew a fully fledged Porter / Stout if I am going for the roasty thing.

Pints of  dark mild => don't find that it's really a session beer, I have a couple and then want to move on to something else, so I've not made a mild / brown ale for a couple of years at least.

Golden ales => probably correspond to the historical versions of mild ale, in the sense that they were young (green) and lightly hopped.   From that point of view, I brew nothing but mild !



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Low key stout / porter => agree, so I would rather brew a fully fledged Porter / Stout if I am going for the roasty thing.

Pints of  dark mild => don't find that it's really a session beer, I have a couple and then want to move on to something else, so I've not made a mild / brown ale for a couple of years at least.

Golden ales => probably correspond to the historical versions of mild ale, in the sense that they were young (green) and lightly hopped.   From that point of view, I brew nothing but mild !



Many people drink Guinness all night, and Mild is pretty much designed to be a session beer. Not for everyone though, obviously. 

I think the historical pale milds were pretty high ABV, looking at the table above. Strong Golden ales, perhaps. 

There was a period of quite high hopping, too. 
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Historical pale milds => I was thinking along the lines of what I brew here, not commercial examples.  My golden ales are usually a bit stronger than pub versions.  Thinking about it, my bottled IPA's are probably more in line with historical pale mild.  Hear where you are coming from though.


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I'd like to attempt a dark mild, I'm just not sure I can pull it off. And I don't really want a keg or 30 bottles of dark, insipid liquid. 

It would be great to get something similar to Holts Black in a keg though. Do I feel a challenge coming on....?!


Joseph Holt Black

3.4% ABV

Joseph Holt Black is a smooth black ale, rich and roasted with a balanced bitterness.

Gold Medal winner at the International Brewing Awards 2015 making it a Hat Trick win for the Brewery with Crystal in 2011 and Diamond in 2013.

 
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I'd like to attempt a dark mild, I'm just not sure I can pull it off. And I don't really want a keg or 30 bottles of dark, insipid liquid. 

It would be great to get something similar to Holts Black in a keg though. Do I feel a challenge coming on....?!


Don't do it.
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Don't do it.


Ha ha!  Why not Sir Greg?
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