Piperbrew
I am going to be attempting my first all grain beers in the next week or so, need to get shifting as someone wants me to take a bottle or two to South Africa in May. 

What I need to know please is what would the water profile be for a Belgian Raspberry Wheat beer, John Hughes is the book its from and also when I come to make the Ringwood best clone what will the water profile be for that please.

Also making a stout I found called terminator which is a dry Irish stout using 1056 Wyeast, if it good I might do another batch with the Ringwoods yeast I have procured and also one of the Wyeast Irish ale which folks rave about.

I have a few things such as the two testers for alkalinity and Calcium and tested my water which I cannot remember the results but was lacking.

I am going to use bottle water or maybe RO water which I believe can be used.

I think I bought gypsum (calcium sulphate) , calcium chloride, CRS, lactic acid and campden tablets which I expect I wont need as not tap water.

I would imagine there will be more chemicals I might need at a more advanced level but will I be ok with what I have ...once I have each beers water table target.

So info required on the water profiles on the 3 beers above I want to try first.

Cheers

 
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Clibit
What you add depends on the profile of the water you start with obviously, so get that first. Is there a problem with your tap water? I feel you should keep things very simple when you start grain brewing. At the most add calcium sulphate/chloride in appropriate amounts for the style and taking your water into account. You can use one of the online water calculators to determine what you need for each beer style, but there's even a case for doing nothing to your water when you first brew. Unless it's really unsuitable.
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Piperbrew
I tested my tap water and here are the results  Carbonate - KH value =11.8 dkh / 4.22 Alkalinity in meq/L  , Calcium - 60mg/L=PPM this is direct from the kit I used

So 211 PPM alkalinity if I am correct?

I was intending to used bottled water for my beers but wanted to ensure I was doing things right.
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Clibit
Piperbrew wrote:
I tested my tap water and here are the results  Carbonate - KH value =11.8 dkh / 4.22 Alkalinity in meq/L  , Calcium - 60mg/L=PPM this is direct from the kit I used

So 211 PPM alkalinity if I am correct?

I was intending to used bottled water for my beers but wanted to ensure I was doing things right.


I think you're running before you walk. I would make some beer using your tap water as it is and focus on the brewing process. As long as your tap water is pleasant to drink. If not, use bottled water. I made several very good batches of all grain beer with no water alterations before looking at water chemistry and even now I do minimal water additions. I have very soft water. 

You can get a water profile from your water provider's website, if you insert your post code. 
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GHW
That's very hard water, like mine. I add some crs (acid to reduce carbonates) and add some dwb (or whatever it's called) which replaces some of the more useful salts the acid reduction strips out. But the quantities of each were given to me based on a proper water report. I'll be honest though, I can't really tell if it makes a difference, and I agree with Clibit that it's probably not the most important thing to think about.
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Piperbrew
yes it hard alright, my cylinder has about 6 inches of the stuff in the bottom when I took it out )
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Clibit
Piperbrew wrote:
yes it hard alright, my cylinder has about 6 inches of the stuff in the bottom when I took it out )


Hard water will need some treatment for many styles, to soften it, as GHW says.

Here is an article about wheat beers that covers water from Chris Colby, brewing writer.

http://beerandwinejournal.com/german-wheat-beer-intro/
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Piperbrew
Thanks for this. I did get the water results from the water board but they didn't say much that was useful. Hence where I got the kits. Surely it is better to get somethings write before you even start the beer which once I have done it a few times will not take much effort and if I am not mistaken should be done each time you brew.

Also with RO water its that so designed to be altered as you require as it has no minerals in it?
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Pinto
RO water has very low minerals in it, but if you want a blank slate, you'll need distilled water and then you can add your minerals as you see fit.
Beer is like porn - you can buy it easily enough, but its so much more fun to make it [wink]
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