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Irene
Cool thx will check after a week. It's cold here at the moment - 15 celcius
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Irene
Pesch  SA is South Africa 
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Clibit
Irene wrote:
I see that I can order the yeasts that you mentioned online. Will give it a go. 

SA is South Africa 


My mate likes the Belle Saison for cider.
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Pinto

I used wine compound yeast (yeast + nutrient) for years in making cider - use it without hesitation - you'll get the results you need and it'll allow for bottle carbonation.  A lot of us do straight juice fermentation - do a search here for "Turbo Cider"  - and you can make decent stuff from juice to glass in about 10 days (assuming you want it fizzy) - just fermentation with compound take about 5 days.  You can tell if it's done by using a beer hydrometer (ciders will read 1.000 to 0.0995) or as a rule of thumb watch for when the yeast settles and the cider goes clear.

Fermentation temps arent as fussy as beer, but going above 24 degrees during ferment isnt reccomended as you'll end up with nasty fusel alcohols being produced.  These days, I tend to ferment my ciders at about 18 degrees - they turn out great.

 

I've been reading about the situation in SA - I dont agree with public measures to strongarm people over alcohol consumption (the minimum unit price in the UK was an example, if slightly less draconian that what you're experiencing) - although some of your compatriots have done some stupid things in trying to make hooch which isn't helping your cause.

Beer is like porn - you can buy it easily enough, but its so much more fun to make it [wink]
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Irene
Hi Pinto thanks! I'm going to do a straight from juice today as per your advice. Do I bottle after 5 days and leave to carbonate for 5 days? Out of the fridge?

Yes crazy things going on here. Alcohol to be unbanned from leave 3 lockdown which starts on 1 June but government may still do a u turn on that like they did with tobacco. Whole country is up in arms as the president said tobacco will be sold from level 4 then 4 days later the minister announced the ban will continue. Now she has also managed to strong-arm the president and no tobacco in level 3. The illegal trade is making billions and she is benefitting from it being directly linked to cheap cigarette manufacturers. 
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Pinto
It's hard to be precise without using a hydrometer to say if fermenting is done, but as an indicator the cider usually goes cloudy when fermenting and starts to clear when done, usually 5-7 days. If you're going to do this, then when you think it's done, taste it - it should be mouth puckeringly dry - no detectable sweetness at all.  Bottle it in plastic soda bottles ( 2 litre ones are best and common to get hold of) to eliminate the chance of bottle bombs, and add 3-4 tea spoons of white sugar to 2 litres of cider.  Leave another 5 days to carbonate out of the fridge  (the bottles will go hard) and then refrigerate until you drink it.

If you want sweeter cider, add artificial sweetener like sucralose or stevia extract as this won't ferment and the cider will stay sweet - again, 3-4 tea spoons per 2 litre bottle
Beer is like porn - you can buy it easily enough, but its so much more fun to make it [wink]
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Irene
Great thx so much
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