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Tigermoth
Stenno wrote:
What’s the recommended way of cleaning? Just a food safe detergent?


Yer, you can use bleach but be sure to rinse it well afterwards and it will kill most things including wild yeasts. When I first started brewing back in the day I used Metabisulphite (Campden Tablets crushed and dissolved or in Powder form dissolved) This will kill wild yeast and sterilise too and is the only sterilising medium allowed in the wine industry (well in this country that is). I still use Metabisulphite from time to time in my tubes and fittings after use but generally I now use Sodium Percarbonate (Oxy-bleach) and the Mangrove Jacks equivalent of Star-San (different name in this country). Check your home brew store they will have a sterilising agent to use but always make sure everything is clean first before you sterilise. Don't leave bleach on any stainless steel for too long before you wash it off. Also make sure you sterilise your bottles, look up the neck into the light as sometimes you will find a deposit on the bottom that must be 101% cleaned of even the finest film, I put a little bit of automatic dishwash powder in the bottom with some really hot water and soak for a while and use a bottle brush after I have emptied the bottle of beer I then wash it thoroughly before storing then rinse with star-san before filling again. Cleaning is the biggest curse in homebrewing but it has to be done to perfection.
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Pinto

A nuke clean usually involves bleach, Stenno - its the accepted gold standard.  Personally, I'd use just a stronger water diluted bleach than the no-rinse recipe and leave everything thats not stainless steel to soak for a few hours after scrubbing it scrupulously clean with hot water and detergent to get rid of any foreign material.  VWP as mentioned above is a great combination of both 👍

 

Onwards and upwards, bud - we've all consigned a batch or two to the drainage system 🙂

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bigmack
The American sour beer book I'm reading currently has some good advice. A weaker solution for a longer time period is more effective than a strong solution in a short period.

I clean with VWP and am now in the habit of letting my sanitiser ChemSan currently) sit in kegs and fermentation buckets overnight or longer. It's no rinse so I just empty it into the next container waiting to be used and then put my wort straight in.

I've also a 1l spray bottle to hand at all times which serves to dose anything else I'm going to put anywhere near the cold side (thermometer, lids etc).

Haven't had an infected batch for years.
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Tigermoth
bigmack wrote:
The American sour beer book I'm reading currently has some good advice. A weaker solution for a longer time period is more effective than a strong solution in a short period.

I clean with VWP and am now in the habit of letting my sanitiser ChemSan currently) sit in kegs and fermentation buckets overnight or longer. It's no rinse so I just empty it into the next container waiting to be used and then put my wort straight in.

I've also a 1l spray bottle to hand at all times which serves to dose anything else I'm going to put anywhere near the cold side (thermometer, lids etc).

Haven't had an infected batch for years.

That's good advice BM. I too like to soak most of my stuff overnight all thrown in the FV and ready for the brew day next day. I am very fussy with tubing and the plastic taps on the FV as the taps accumulate a lot of gunk if you don't unscrew them and give them a really good clean. I too have a spray bottle with the star-san in it and give everything a good spray. The only recent problem I have had was with a couple of small bottles out of a whole batch that fizzed over everywhere and I think they must have had a bit if infection in them, probably a bit of film on the bottom of these two bottles that I had missed for some reason but I am extra cautious now and make 100% certain they are stored away clean.
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Stenno

Thanks for the advice guys! 


I tried a couple more bottles but they’re all sour unfortunately 🙈 so down the drain they go! 

 

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Womble
Bad luck.  I had to ditch a brew this summer, wild yeast, I can't do much about it.  I know I risk getting a dodgy brew during the summer but I still brew all the same. 

I use dilute bleach as my standard sanitiser.
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