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GHW
Not really just that I’m looking for ways I can try and improve given that I can’t manage fermentation temps
I know I have good water for dark beers, I just don’t make many!
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Clibit
GHW wrote:
Not really just that I’m looking for ways I can try and improve given that I can’t manage fermentation temps
I know I have good water for dark beers, I just don’t make many!


Well you could definitely improve the pale beers with water adjustment. 

Answer Rob's questions, previous post.
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Steve
Robert wrote:

If you can be bothered...

show us the info off the Murphy's report

give us a grain bill you'd like to use
what kind of beer? malt or hops dominant, or balanced?

how much mash water?
how much sparge water? What kind of sparge



Don’t do grainfather talk 😂 come on Gareth it was sooo funny 😂
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Pinto

Murphys ? might as well guess numbers 😉 get another one done by Pheonix [wink]

TBH, im seriously considering going RO - an RO plant costs a tiny bit more than a water report (5 stage plant on ebay right now for £36), and allows you to build ANY profile of water you want for any style you might care to brew - just add minerals and you're away from pilsner to RIS.

Beer is like porn - you can buy it easily enough, but its so much more fun to make it [wink]
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Pesho77
My opinion is that ro is the way to go, we all can get water reports of the internet or send away a water sample and then get a report, but that only covers either averages or that single sample, so the only way to know where your starting from is to strip every thing out of the water and build up from there, this may be a bit ott for some people and most can make most styles with what ever comes out of their taps, but ro should improve most beers.

 The down side is the cost of an ro system and where to store it and the time it takes to fill, realistically id need a 100l system since I have a 100l brew rig, I need at least 65l for a 45l batch, if I run a second batch id need another 65l I can store the system but its gonna cost a bit.

 Pesh
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Robbie
I found Murphys recommendations to be very interesting, much higher than any of the water calculators were suggesting.  Someone posted their analysis online and it makes for very interesting reading.

MurphyP&B.jpg 


Beer is an expression of the human spirit. . . we use technical sciences as a tool to create it but its essence is and always will be a form of art - Handbook of brewing, chapter 2, page 55
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Robert
Yeah, those "targets" are weird. Also that info isn't much use for a water calculator because the +/- ions don't balance out, presumably because there's no entry for sodium? Lot of Nitrate in that water, if it was mine I'd consider bottled for drinking.
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Pinto
Pesho77 wrote:
My opinion is that ro is the way to go, we all can get water reports of the internet or send away a water sample and then get a report, but that only covers either averages or that single sample, so the only way to know where your starting from is to strip every thing out of the water and build up from there, this may be a bit ott for some people and most can make most styles with what ever comes out of their taps, but ro should improve most beers.

 The down side is the cost of an ro system and where to store it and the time it takes to fill, realistically id need a 100l system since I have a 100l brew rig, I need at least 65l for a 45l batch, if I run a second batch id need another 65l I can store the system but its gonna cost a bit.

 Pesh


Most units are designed to be plumbed in under the sink, although I did consider building one into an alloy flight case 😉

Even a 10l/h unit would meet your needs provided you did a little pre-planning and started it running 6-10 hours before brewday....
Beer is like porn - you can buy it easily enough, but its so much more fun to make it [wink]
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Pesho77

 Yeah I can plumb it in to my bathroom easy enough, but I cant make a second batch.

 Pesh
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Pinto
Fill 20L hdpe cubes ( like no chill ones) the day before brewday ? Easy to make 120L ready to go in the days before.  That's the way I'll be doing it.
Beer is like porn - you can buy it easily enough, but its so much more fun to make it [wink]
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Pesho77
 I could do then pump it in to my hlt 

 Pesh
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Bunglebrewsbeer
I used beersmith and then have a google of bru’n’water. I used that spreadsheet along side beersmith once I’d got a water report sorted. There’s a really good tutorial on YouTube showing how to use them alongside each other. But fiddky at first but once used it a few times it’s wiite simple. Seemed to be good to for getting profiles for beer styles.
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