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Just bottled this and its full of piney goodness as I'd hoped and the Mrs reckons it smells like grapefruit, which is a good thing. The rye has added a fair bit of colour as it's a deep gold rather than a pale lager colour you'd get from the extra pale. Still pretty murky, but it's less than 2 weeks old.

Just having a cheeky 1/3 from what's left in the bottling bucket. It was a few points over OG, so I think it will be fairly lively, tastes quite strong too. Look forward to this in a few weeks time.

Sounds very nice, Hops.

What was your opinion of the Summit hops when you used them last year? I have a packet in the freezer, I'm planning to use them in a big, boozy red ale ready for winter – something malty and heavy to stand up to the hops. I not knowingly drunk something with Summit though, so not really sure what to expect.
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Hops_and_Dreams

Sounds very nice, Hops.

What was your opinion of the Summit hops when you used them last year? I have a packet in the freezer, I'm planning to use them in a big, boozy red ale ready for winter – something malty and heavy to stand up to the hops. I not knowingly drunk something with Summit though, so not really sure what to expect.

Thanks EB.

Hard to tell re Summit as I used half as much compared to the Columbus and Simcoe in that beer. Supposed to be tangerine type flavour though so thought it would complement the Simcoe. The beer was very nice though. One point I've read more than once is to not boil them for long, if at all, otherwise they can impart a garlic/onion flavour - that doesn't sound too appealing to me! I added them as above, so for 10 minutes or less.
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EspeciallyBitter
Hard to tell re Summit as I used half as much compared to the Columbus and Simcoe in that beer. Supposed to be tangerine type flavour though so thought it would complement the Simcoe. The beer was very nice though. One point I've read more than once is to not boil them for long, if at all, otherwise they can impart a garlic/onion flavour - that doesn't sound too appealing to me! I added them as above, so for 10 minutes or less.

Thanks, good to know about the long boil times. I'll keep that in mind.
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Hops_and_Dreams
Ok, the brew is finally on and nearly finished the mash. Not used toasted wheat before, so interested to see what it adds, I'm sort of expecting it to be a bit like biscuit, with the benefits of wheat. Plenty of crystal malt too, which is smelling lovely in the mash. It's a lovely day here too, so brewing outside, not sure why I haven't done this before.

Ordinary Bitter
23ltr Batch
OG 1037
FG 1010
ABV 3.6%
IBU 30
EBC 13

3.000kg Best Ale Malt
0.360kg Toasted Wheat Malt
0.270kg Crystal T50

25g Boadicea 60min
25g Fuggles 15min
25g Boadicea 0min

Whirlfloc tablet 15min 

Ferment with WY1099 Whitbread Ale
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bigmack
Looks nice that. I've not made a bitter in years. Not sure I'll squeeze it in this year with everything planned but I'll try.

I bought a bag of the toasted wheat a few weeks ago. Was thinking it might be interesting in a Hefe. Let me know what you think of it.
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Hops_and_Dreams
bigmack wrote:
Looks nice that. I've not made a bitter in years. Not sure I'll squeeze it in this year with everything planned but I'll try.

I bought a bag of the toasted wheat a few weeks ago. Was thinking it might be interesting in a Hefe. Let me know what you think of it.

Cheers Mack.

Yeah I thought the wheat sounded a bit different and worth a try. I'll let you know what I think.

I normally brew to the seasons, mostly yellow beer in spring/summer and bitters and darker beers in the colder months. There's the odd exception, but I just never fancy a bitter in warm weather!
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EspeciallyBitter
so brewing outside, not sure why I haven't done this before

Just make sure you don't brew outside on the same day as @Alcoholx because that guarantees rain, apparently.
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AdrianDBW
Ok, the brew is finally on and nearly finished the mash. Not used toasted wheat before, so interested to see what it adds, I'm sort of expecting it to be a bit like biscuit, with the benefits of wheat. Plenty of crystal malt too, which is smelling lovely in the mash. It's a lovely day here too, so brewing outside, not sure why I haven't done this before.

Ordinary Bitter
23ltr Batch
OG 1037
FG 1010
ABV 3.6%
IBU 30
EBC 13

3.000kg Best Ale Malt
0.360kg Toasted Wheat Malt
0.270kg Crystal T50

25g Boadicea 60min
25g Fuggles 15min
25g Boadicea 0min

Whirlfloc tablet 15min 

Ferment with WY1099 Whitbread Ale


One of my mates raves about Boadicea hops, but I've not seen them for sale yet to buy any!

Sounds like a good drop this anyway. Are you toasting the wheat malt yourself?
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Hops_and_Dreams

Just make sure you don't brew outside on the same day as @Alcoholx because that guarantees rain, apparently.
 
The brew day weather stayed fine, fortunately. I admire their commitment to outdoor brewing, not sure I'd fancy it in the rain. Cold weather would be bad enough!
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Hops_and_Dreams
AdrianDBW wrote:


One of my mates raves about Boadicea hops, but I've not seen them for sale yet to buy any!

Sounds like a good drop this anyway. Are you toasting the wheat malt yourself?

I got them from the Malt Miller last year, when I was browsing through their sale section. I got these, Pioneer and Endeavor. I have used boadicea before, but the beer beer wasn't great, so hopefully this will do them justice. I've not used the other two before, but they sounded quite fruity so will try them in something lighter.

The wheat I bought pre toasted! It's a Crisp malt and I got it from Geterbrewed. 
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Alcoholx

Just make sure you don't brew outside on the same day as @Alcoholx because that guarantees rain, apparently.
 

yea..  if i so much as look at the robobrew the clouds gather over my house...  its like a scene from ghostbusters  😂
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Hops_and_Dreams
Ok, the brew is finally on and nearly finished the mash. Not used toasted wheat before, so interested to see what it adds, I'm sort of expecting it to be a bit like biscuit, with the benefits of wheat. Plenty of crystal malt too, which is smelling lovely in the mash. It's a lovely day here too, so brewing outside, not sure why I haven't done this before.

Ordinary Bitter
23ltr Batch
OG 1037
FG 1010
ABV 3.6%
IBU 30
EBC 13

3.000kg Best Ale Malt
0.360kg Toasted Wheat Malt
0.270kg Crystal T50

25g Boadicea 60min
25g Fuggles 15min
25g Boadicea 0min

Whirlfloc tablet 15min 

Ferment with WY1099 Whitbread Ale

Bottled my bitter this morning. One of those that tastes good straight from the fermentor. Helped by the fact that this yeast has dropped out really well. The toasted wheat reminds me of amber malt, I think. Nice balance between the malt and hops. Tastes how I expect a classic English bitter to taste.

Pleasing so far.
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EspeciallyBitter
Sounds great, Hops. A classic southern bitter, I guess? Lots of crystal and biscuity amber flavour.

What is Boedicea like? It's one of those UK varieties I see in recipes but there's no hope in hell of my LHBS stocking it.
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Hops_and_Dreams
Sounds great, Hops. A classic southern bitter, I guess? Lots of crystal and biscuity amber flavour.

What is Boedicea like? It's one of those UK varieties I see in recipes but there's no hope in hell of my LHBS stocking it.

I'll have to let you know about boadicea when I try it properly. Mostly picked out the fuggles, but then I recognise their flavour.
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Clibit
I got some toasted wheat from geterbrewed last time too, yet to be tried out. I've used Endeavour, a good hop, of the fruity blackcurranty type. Not used Boadicea but Adnams use them a fair bit I believe. I've had Boadicea single hop beers, it's a pretty delicate hop, floral, not one for your hoppy beers but pleasant.
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