Clibit
Adrians recipe for a deceptively simple but fantastic tasting beer. Dark, but light, dry and refreshing, and quite highly carbonated. A pale beer with a dark colour provided by cold steeped carafa special malt which provides some roast flavour which works surprisingly well with the Sorachi Ace hops. Delicious. Not sure how this won a pale beer competition.  [rofl]

The bottle said 5.25%, maybe Adrian can clarify.

Black Ninja recipe. 15 Litres

4kg Maris Otter
210g Crystal 30
300g De-husked Caraf 3- cold steeped over night and add at end of boil

20g (25 IBUs) Magnum 30mins
25g Sorachi Ace 10mins

75g Sorachi Ace Dry Hop 3 days

MJ44 US West Coast Yeast

30/30 mash/boil

42 IBUs
OG 1.062
FG 1.014
ABV 6.4%
SRM 32


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GHW
Great looking beer, deceptively simple recipe I suspect.

Maybe a future comp should be to brew a previous recipe such as this?
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Hops_and_Dreams
I vote Adrian should submit it in the dark category too, so I can try it.
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Clibit
Hops_and_Dreams wrote:
I vote Adrian should submit it in the dark category too, so I can try it.


Good point! I allowed it in the pale section and then it won! [rofl]


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hichaechoc
Clibit wrote:


Good point! I allowed it in the pale section and then it won! [rofl]




You even allowed my Dark Island, but drew the line at the Black Sabbath. Never mind, Hops will get a bottle of it...

Now how pale a beer will Hops allow?
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Clibit
hichaechoc wrote:


You even allowed my Dark Island, but drew the line at the Black Sabbath. Never mind, Hops will get a bottle of it...

Now how pale a beer will Hops allow?


The Dark Island was brown. The Black Ninja was a pale ipa dressed up in a black Ninja suit. 

The Black Sabbath is a very black, roasty stout. But a very nice beer, John.   [thumb]
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Hops_and_Dreams
hichaechoc wrote:


You even allowed my Dark Island, but drew the line at the Black Sabbath. Never mind, Hops will get a bottle of it...

Now how pale a beer will Hops allow?

I think the line should be drawn at brown ale? But happy to go with the consensus.
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GHW
Well if a black ipa can (rightly) enter the pale category, a white stout should be within the rules!
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Clibit
GHW wrote:
Well if a black ipa can (rightly) enter the pale category, a white stout should be within the rules!


Difficult to argue!
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GHW
Has anyone ever brewed a white stout?
While I get the appeal of a black ipa, and even if the name doesn’t make sense the beer kinda does, I don’t really understand how a stout can be white?
Surely a defining feature is roast malt and the accompanying colour?
Or am I being myopic?
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Steve
GHW wrote:
Has anyone ever brewed a white stout?
While I get the appeal of a black ipa, and even if the name doesn’t make sense the beer kinda does, I don’t really understand how a stout can be white?
Surely a defining feature is roast malt and the accompanying colour?
Or am I being myopic?


Yeah I don’t get it either tbh 🤔
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Clibit
I drank one once. 
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Steve
Clibit wrote:
I drank one once. 


And?
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Clibit
Steve wrote:


And?


It was ok but i couldn't equate it to stout. I cant remember it very well it was a long time ago, but it didnt make a big impression. It was strong and full bodied. Stout originally just meant strong. White stout is a modern invention and seems to vary a lot as there are no style guidelines. Some are made like stouts without the dark grain. Flaked barley etc. They are usually strong. They may include coffee flavours somehow. They seem like a gimmick but a good beer is a good beer and i bet some are good. Not sure idI bother brewing one but I'm getting old. 😉
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Pinto
I think the concept was to get the roasty and coffee flavours of a Stout into a lighter beer using techniques like cold steeping grains etc.  I've toyed with the concept but never really got into it.
Beer is like porn - you can buy it easily enough, but its so much more fun to make it
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