HisDudeness
Took a trip to the local Waitrose yesterday and was well chuffed to pick up a box of these collaboration brews that fullers have done, some great breweries involved and if the beers live up to the descriptions, hopefully some cracking beers! It was £12 which I thought was a good price considering 3 are 7%+ 

https://www.fullers.co.uk/blog/beer-articles/fullers-and-friends
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HisDudeness wrote:
Took a trip to the local Waitrose yesterday and was well chuffed to pick up a box of these collaboration brews that fullers have done, some great breweries involved and if the beers live up to the descriptions, hopefully some cracking beers! It was £12 which I thought was a good price considering 3 are 7%+ 

https://www.fullers.co.uk/blog/beer-articles/fullers-and-friends
I noticed these the other day. Will be interested to hear what you think. They did sound pretty good.
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HisDudeness
Might try a couple tonight, will update on my findings!
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AdrianDBW
I'll have to let Santa know about this... [rofl]
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Clibit
Well jell!  Waitrose is a bit of a hassle for me, and I could get there and fine none. Would make a perfect Xmas gift. [thumb]
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HisDudeness
Tried the loral lager last night, was very tasty nice light fruitiness from the hops
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HisDudeness
Nearly polished this box off now some good some not so good beers but definitely an interesting selection.

Biggest disappointment was the Cloudwater NEIPA, was expecting a thick cloudy soft IPA with massive hop aroma and fruity flavour. Didn't really get any of that, poured clearish, not much aroma, not particularly fruity just tasted like a fairly bland low IBU american IPA tbh.

The smoked porter from Hardknott was good, concept here was to try and recreate a historical styled london porter and I think they nailed it. I have no idea what a victorian porter might have actually been like but the look, flavour and aroma of this certainly gave it a real sense of being an 'old world' recipe.

The NZ Saison by Marble was also a good beer but I'm not really a fan of Saison and this still hasn't convinced me tbh however I will say its one of the Saisons I have enjoyed the most out of those I have tried. The NZ hops seem to suit the style and it was a quite complex beer while still being light and dry

The beer from Moor brewery was a reworked version of the original ESB recipe from fullers with a mix of UK, US, Slovenian and Aussie hops as a result it tasted more like an American amber to me but had a slightly odd hop flavour to it that reminded me a bit of fruit sherbet sweets! Couldn't quite work out if I liked it or not, still undecided! 

I have saved the red rye ale from Thornbridge for last as the description was the one that appealed to me the most, hopefully can finish on a high with that one...
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Clibit
It sounds like the collaboration idea is working after a fashion but not entirely. The NEIPA doesn't sound very Cloudwater at all. I wonder of Fullers decided not to stray to far from their normal script, or whether their facilities didn't allow, perhaps? Did they all get filterered and pasteurised, I wonder? Personally, I've always been a big fan of cask Fullers ales, never bothered that much with their bottles, which always seem processed in the way that most bottled beers do. 
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HisDudeness
Clibit wrote:
It sounds like the collaboration idea is working after a fashion but not entirely. The NEIPA doesn't sound very Cloudwater at all. I wonder of Fullers decided not to stray to far from their normal script, or whether their facilities didn't allow, perhaps? Did they all get filterered and pasteurised, I wonder? Personally, I've always been a big fan of cask Fullers ales, never bothered that much with their bottles, which always seem processed in the way that most bottled beers do. 


Yes a bit hit and miss, they are all bottle conditioned so in theory shouldn't be filtered and pasteurised but something didn't work, perhaps some other part of their process doesn't suit the truckload of hops style brewing! It was definitely not what I was expecting for a beer Cloudwater were involved with, I haven't ever tried one of their beers but the reputation precedes them. 
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Clibit
HisDudeness wrote:


Yes a bit hit and miss, they are all bottle conditioned so in theory shouldn't be filtered and pasteurised but something didn't work, perhaps some other part of their process doesn't suit the truckload of hops style brewing! It was definitely not what I was expecting for a beer Cloudwater were involved with, I haven't ever tried one of their beers but the reputation precedes them. 


I have mixed feelings about Cloudwater. I find them pretty annoying in their hipster marketing, and I've paid a lot for some very average beer, and opened a can that was completely flat. However, I've also had some fantastic beers of theirs. Their own tap is the best place to drink their beer. The head brewer was the original Marble brewer and really knows his stuff obviously. They have a problem apparently, Cloudwater...

[here, Paul, stick this khaki shirt on and groom that beard, we are taking you to a cave for a photo-shoot - there's no such thing as bad publicity]

https://www.morningadvertiser.co.uk/Article/2017/11/30/Cloudwater-Brew-Co-faces-eviction

Cue a crowdfunding campaign, called The Equity Cloud, so that hipsters can upload their money, and grow their beards another inch, and feel even smugger.  [rofl]

R
e Fullers, I'm wondering if they didn't want their beers to stray to far from their norm?
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HisDudeness
Clibit wrote:

[here, Paul, stick this khaki shirt on and groom that beard, we are taking you to a cave for a photo-shoot - there's no such thing as bad publicity]

https://www.morningadvertiser.co.uk/Article/2017/11/30/Cloudwater-Brew-Co-faces-eviction

Cue a crowdfunding campaign, called The Equity Cloud, so that hipsters can upload their money, and grow their beards another inch, and feel even smugger.  [rofl]


[rofl][rofl][rofl]

Clibit wrote:

Re Fullers, I'm wondering if they didn't want their beers to stray to far from their norm?


Could be something to that, perhaps they weren't happy about putting out a massive murky hop bomb that might have caused the average London Pride drinker to recoil in horror!
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HisDudeness
Had the last one tonight a 7% red rye ale by thornbridge, nice malty flavour, rye is quite subtle, hops not as prominent as I’d like, it’s ok but not as good as I’d hoped. So overall some interesting beers the porter and lager probably the best for me, the 2 breweries I expected most of (cloudwater and thornbridge) were both disappointing though. Just about worth buying if you fancy a quite varied selection box
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Clibit
HisDudeness wrote:
Had the last one tonight a 7% red rye ale by thornbridge, nice malty flavour, rye is quite subtle, hops not as prominent as I’d like, it’s ok but not as good as I’d hoped. So overall some interesting beers the porter and lager probably the best for me, the 2 breweries I expected most of (cloudwater and thornbridge) were both disappointing though. Just about worth buying if you fancy a quite varied selection box


The few Cloudwater beers I've had have varied immensely. At their best they are fantastic, top level, but they make some duffers. The head brewer I reckon is an expert at some styles (pales and west coast IPAs for sure) and a novice at others but they are obsessed with being cool, doing cool styles, doing everything, lots of variety, resulting in some poor beers. IMO. Thornbridge seem to have lost their way, not had a really good beer from them in ages. 
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HisDudeness
I think some of the breweries like cloudwater concentrate so much on varying their roster of beers that they cant possibly have a chance to perfect each one and the consistency must suffer as a result. Haven't tried anything by Thornbridge that I was blown away by and their Jaipur IPA was dreadful when I tried it which was a surprise as its supposed to be a top notch beer. 
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Clibit
HisDudeness wrote:
I think some of the breweries like cloudwater concentrate so much on varying their roster of beers that they cant possibly have a chance to perfect each one and the consistency must suffer as a result. Haven't tried anything by Thornbridge that I was blown away by and their Jaipur IPA was dreadful when I tried it which was a surprise as its supposed to be a top notch beer. 


Jaipur started out great, but has been terrible when I've tried it in recent years so i have stopped buying it. We used to get Thornbridge beers on cask in my local a lot and they were really good, Kipling was a great beer, but they seem to have lost the plot, probably their expansion I guess. 

The Cloudwater brewer was focused on quite a narrow range of beers at Marble, they mainly brewed pale ales and IPAs with a couple of dark beers and a ginger. He's now doing all the trendy stuff like hoppy lagers, saisons, sours even I think. I've only had a few Cloudwater beers but the good ones have been the pales/IPAs, unsurprisingly. I dare say plenty of people out there have tried a lot more of their stuff and disagree.
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