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EspeciallyBitter
Pinto wrote:
I neither rate their product nor approve of their business models- they claim to be beer enthusiasts and supporters of craft and then act and scheme in ways that would make AB Inbev proud....

We all have an opinion tho 🙂

I was never really a fan of their beer or their bar in Newcastle but each to their own. But business practices reminiscent of AB InBev, are they really that bad as a business?
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Womble
Are they really that bad ?  I guess it depends on one's politics.   Last time I looked, AB inbev was the number 1 brewer worldwide, Brew Dog very successful.  So, commercially, both are doing well. 

Here in France, AB Inbev, Carlsberg & Heineken count for approx 75% of market share. 

... and I know what I think of that.
Multi-tasking, easy, drink beer and watch telly.
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EspeciallyBitter
That's kind of my question though. I do not like the way AB InBev controls distribution and muscles out smaller businesses from the shelves and other anti-competitive practices, which is why I avoid any beer I know is owned by them. Do Brewdog operate the same way? Their marketing can be gimmicky and a little irritating but that's not the same as the crap the big boys pull.
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EspeciallyBitter
Womble wrote:
Here in France, AB Inbev, Carlsberg & Heineken count for approx 75% of market share.

For all the hype about ‘craft’ in the States, it still only accounts for about 15% of the beer market. The rest is made up mostly of AB InBev and Molson Coors brands, with a couple of brands owned by Heineken and Constellation in the mix. And there are a lot of ‘craft’ breweries who are owned by the big boys, like Lagunitas (Heineken), Karbach, Elysian, Breckenridge, Goose Island (all AB InBev), New Belgium (Kirin), and Revolver (MillerCoors). Outside of our beard-stroking bubble, the simple fact is that beer is still overwhelmingly a huge commodified product and most people don't give a tuppeny jizz where it's from or, in many cases, what it tastes like.
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Womble
Nice comments EB, as usual, is there anything you are not good at ?    I just don't buy commercial beer anymore, so yes I avoid the big boys. 

Don't forget some of us beard rubbers also wear sandals !
Multi-tasking, easy, drink beer and watch telly.
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EspeciallyBitter
In my case the beard is figurative as I can't grow one. I have some flip flops, do they count as sandals?
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bigmack
I just love that they're 'fiercely independent' on every label, while happily selling a sizeable chunk of the business (23%) to TSG:

https://presshub.brewdog.com/presshub/tsg-deal-2
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Pinto
bigmack wrote:
I just love that they're 'fiercely independent' on every label, while happily selling a sizeable chunk of the business (23%) to TSG:



Exactly, Mac.

 

To me, their sales practices are as insideous as ABInbev and MC's - just looking at the "craft" sections of supermarkets (where most UK beer sales are made) reveals 50-75% of the craft/premium shelf space is filled with their product, to the detriment of other independent and small breweries.  Coupled in with the mass advertising campaigns and even persuading "craft drinkers" into funding their mass expansions and repression of competition via their equity schemes.....

Beer is like porn - you can buy it easily enough, but its so much more fun to make it [wink]
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bigmack
They're at it again. Wonder what an Aldi flavoured beer will taste like?

https://foodanddrink.scotsman.com/drink/brewdog-responds-to-lookalike-aldi-beer-yaldi-ipa/
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Steve
The brewdog clockwork tangerine is rather nice! Anyone  tried it?
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GHW
That Yaldi thing is hilarious. Suspect it’s a publicity stunt tho
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Alcoholx
Steve wrote:
The brewdog clockwork tangerine is rather nice! Anyone  tried it?


I wasn't that keen to be honest..  found it a bit bland..   it's ok..   but I thought it needed more tangerine/citrus flavour
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Steve
Alcoholx wrote:


I wasn't that keen to be honest..  found it a bit bland..   it's ok..   but I thought it needed more tangerine/citrus flavour



i liked it for a mass produced beer, it was different
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