denny
https://www.experimentalbrew.com/podcast/brew-files-episode-19-bad-apple

The Brew Is Out There!

On this week's episode of the Brew Files, we get ready for the fall with a quick lesson in making America's founding beverage - cider. We come at it from two different points of view (surprise!) since Denny has actual apple trees and Drew has a giant city surrounding him (but apple orchards a short drive away!) But together, we'll get you to the right answer about to make great cider from some bad apples!

Links

The Everything Hard Cider Book - http://amzn.to/2xPZb6h

Drew's Cider Cheat Sheet: https://www.maltosefalcons.com/tech/cider-brewing-cheatsheet

Correll Cider Presses: http://correllciderpresses.com/ (Denny has a Medium Plus)
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Pinto

Nice to see (from your cheat sheet) that Turbo Cider is alive and well on your side of the atlantic, denny  - though I do notice that Drew's recipe doesnt mention using tannin or even cooking (or bitter apples) with desert apple juice - 1tsp of wine makers tannin per gallon of juice will make a great deal of difference to the flavour and tartness of these types of cider (tho it's mentioned in the podcast [smile] )

I used to make my own hard apple cider from local fruits (also my area is well supplied by orchards,but stingy farmers [frown] ) but havent been able to for the last 2 years - im hoping to secure enough apples this year to make a batch [smile]

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denny
Pinto wrote:

Nice to see (from your cheat sheet) that Turbo Cider is alive and well on your side of the atlantic, denny  - though I do notice that Drew's recipe doesnt mention using tannin or even cooking (or bitter apples) with desert apple juice - 1tsp of wine makers tannin per gallon of juice will make a great deal of difference to the flavour and tartness of these types of cider (tho it's mentioned in the podcast [smile] )

I used to make my own hard apple cider from local fruits (also my area is well supplied by orchards,but stingy farmers [frown] ) but havent been able to for the last 2 years - im hoping to secure enough apples this year to make a batch [smile]

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Thanks for the tips!  I'll pass them along!
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Pinto
Also on the bottling/sweetening issue - do you have non-fermentable sweeteners such as sucralose or Stevia ? Allows for bottle sweetening without the re-ferment risks [smile]  My personal preference is for Stevia, but it is expensive in comparison to sucralose.SaveSave
Beer is like porn - you can buy it easily enough, but its so much more fun to make it [wink]
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denny
Pinto wrote:
Also on the bottling/sweetening issue - do you have non-fermentable sweeteners such as sucralose or Stevia ? Allows for bottle sweetening without the re-ferment risks [smile]  My personal preference is for Stevia, but it is expensive in comparison to sucralose.SaveSave


Yeah, I've heard of people doing that but I haven't.  I prefer dry cider to sweet.
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dbeechum
Pinto - thanks for the catch. Forgot to edit the quick guide before the podcast came out. Added mentions of tannin and acid to the sheet. If you listen to the cast, you'll hear me talk about them. It was only during the edit process that I realized we skipped over artificial sweeteners but it wouldn't matter much because my thing would have been to say "People do this, I haven't, but you can, so there"
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Steve
dbeechum wrote:
Pinto - thanks for the catch. Forgot to edit the quick guide before the podcast came out. Added mentions of tannin and acid to the sheet. If you listen to the cast, you'll hear me talk about them. It was only during the edit process that I realized we skipped over artificial sweeteners but it wouldn't matter much because my thing would have been to say "People do this, I haven't, but you can, so there"


Another great podcast! Thanks guys, ps Pliny the Unwanted is a awesome beer Drew 👍
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Pinto
denny wrote:


Yeah, I've heard of people doing that but I haven't.  I prefer dry cider to sweet.


I'm with you there, Denny - but I also have to keep the lady wife happy so she lets me brew unhindered [rofl]


Beer is like porn - you can buy it easily enough, but its so much more fun to make it [wink]
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denny
Pinto wrote:


I'm with you there, Denny - but I also have to keep the lady wife happy so she lets me brew unhindered [rofl]


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denny
Tastes vary, huh? My wife wouldn't touch a sweetened cider. But she also likes sour beers and 70+ IBU IPA
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dbeechum
Steve wrote:
Another great podcast! Thanks guys, ps Pliny the Unwanted is a awesome beer Drew 👍


I love that beer. Need to do a show on it because it's just too awesome a thing to have happen via chemical enhancement.
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Steve
dbeechum wrote:


I love that beer. Need to do a show on it because it's just too awesome a thing to have happen via chemical enhancement.


I’ve brewed it once a month or so ago, and I will be brewing it again as I loved the bloody stuff Drew! Maybe some how it could be added to a podcast in the future ? Once again keep up the good work on the podcasts and the books 👍 got to say though Denny’s Noti Brown is also a great beer, you two obviously are talented brewers, and thank you to the two of you’s for taking the time to visit our forum it’s much appreciated .
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