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Pinto
Im on the smoked side (islay malt whiskey lover 😂 ) - really dont enjoy or even get the sour beer thing at all.  Do enjoy a decent fruit beer occasionally tho.
Beer is like porn - you can buy it easily enough, but its so much more fun to make it [wink]
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Robert
I find women seem to like the heather ale I make, I think women tend not to like bitter tastes much for some reason.
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EspeciallyBitter
One thing I have learnt from trying different beers, and seeing what others like, is that bitter and sour are two very different things.

I like some sour beers but find many of the modern offerings are a bit one-dimensional. Even the high-end ones (e.g., Jester King) can be hit or miss for me. But a good Rodenbach is lovely.
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Clibit
One thing I have learnt from trying different beers, and seeing what others like, is that bitter and sour are two very different things.

I like some sour beers but find many of the modern offerings are a bit one-dimensional. Even the high-end ones (e.g., Jester King) can be hit or miss for me. But a good Rodenbach is lovely.


A lot of beer is one dimensional. A lot of lager. A lot of IPAs. Sourness is one aspect of a beer, like bitterness is. I'm a huge Rodenbach fan, it is a mixed fermentation beer with a lot of complexity, but I also like other types of sour like Berliner, Gose, and some fruit sours. Simpler, but great on the right occasion.

Sours are an acquired taste but when you acquire the taste these beers are often fantastic. There are sours that are too much for me, I drink a limited range of them, but experience suggests the more of an intense thing you eat or drink, the more tolerant you become of the intensity. Curries and chillies, IPAs etc. My appreciation of sours is expanding, slowly, cos I drink them occasionally. Some of the most memorably great beers I've had have been sours.
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EspeciallyBitter
Clibit wrote:

A lot of beer is one dimensional. A lot of lager. A lot of IPAs. Sourness is one aspect of a beer, like bitterness is. I'm a huge Rodenbach fan, it is a mixed fermentation beer with a lot of complexity, but I also like other types of sour like Berliner, Gose, and some fruit sours. Simpler, but great on the right occasion.

Sours are an acquired taste but when you acquire the taste these beers are often fantastic. There are sours that are too much for me, I drink a limited range of them, but experience suggests the more of an intense thing you eat or drink, the more tolerant you become of the intensity. Curries and chillies, IPAs etc. My appreciation of sours is expanding, slowly, cos I drink them occasionally. Some of the most memorably great beers I've had have been sours.

I agree with you that different beers are good for different occasions.

Whilst I like sour things I guess it's just not my favourite flavour profile. Horses for courses and all that. There are certainly some excellent sour beers I've enjoyed, but they are a tiny minority of the ones I've tried and they are beers that offer some subtlety beyond the sourness. I don't necessarily think simple should mean one-dimensional. What I mean is many commercial sour beers taste one-dimensional in the sense that they don't really taste like beer to me, more like a tart soft drink or something. And the shelves here, in the US, are groaning with brands like that. I just feel like breweries lose sight of what they're doing, dialling one thing up to 11 because that's the cool new thing. Some breweries do very good sours, no doubt, I just need to keep trying until I find them. I don't mean to say sour beer as a whole is bad. Maybe I should say sour beer is suffering from overpopularity.

I suppose in the same way many good lagers were (still are) pushed out of the way in preference for fizzy, one-dimensional, often crap tasting stuff, because Pilsner-type beers became the thing all brewers wanted to make and drinkers wanted to drink. Same for bitter too – Watney's Red Barrel, anyone? The good examples of lager and bitter are excellent, they can be more or less complex, or simple but nuanced. I wouldn't say one-dimensional.
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Clibit
Yes drinking sours is a bit like picking your way through a mine field, at least til you get fully used to them, and I'm not there yet. It's worth it though, for me, cos the good ones I really enjoy, and I'm learning and developing the taste for new things. I had a Gose in Amsterdam last summer and enjoyed that beer so much. Maybe the closer you get to Belgium and Germany the better they are. 
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Clibit
Pinto wrote:
Im on the smoked side (islay malt whiskey lover 😂 ) - really dont enjoy or even get the sour beer thing at all.  Do enjoy a decent fruit beer occasionally tho.


I love Islay malts. And sour beers! Well, some. We are all made differently. But you can develop the taste for things. I used to hate olives but now love them. I thought Belgian ales tasted weird but now love them. 

Bit of effort required maybe?
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EspeciallyBitter
There's a very unassuming petrol station shop near where I live that has this pretty amazing selection of beers, including a lot of Belgian imports. I remember going there about six years ago and buying a Boon geuze. That was probably the first sour beer I tried. I remember liking it but it was certainly different.

I can't remember a time when I didn't like whisky or Belgian ales! 🙂
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